June 8th, 2020
June 8th, 2020 Transcript – Mental Health Moment
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Topic – DBT and Mindfulness
It’s Monday again and time to take some time for your mental health. Welcome welcome to the Mental Health Moment, I’m your host Joe Newman from Life Launch Centers and this is the show where we talked about all things for your mental health to give tips and tools to help you cope and healthy ways with today’s difficult emotions. You know the CDC reports that one and three kids today have anxiety and that was before COVID, we’re getting some pretty clear and early indication that all this quarantine isolation, uncertainty about future events has made it even worse. Maybe you can relate maybe your family is struggling with anxiety or depression even more today. Well first off I want to give you some hope that there is help you can actually overcome anxiety and depression by learning the powerful emotional tools from DBT or otherwise known as dialectical behavior therapy and also using the power of mindfulness and today to help me talk about the power of these principles I’ve got on the show with me today Leslie VandeMerwe, let she’s a licensed clinical mental health counselor and also their Clinical Director of Life Launch Centers in West Jordan. So Leslie, thank you so much for joining me on the show today.
You’re welcome. I’m happy to be here. Leslie you been learning and teaching DBT in mindfulness for quite some time it’s a big part of the lifeline centers resilience curriculum which each tell us a little bit about your background in counseling and what is DBT and working with different kind of problems diagnosis such as anxiety and depression as you mentioned Eating Disorders behavioral problems lots of background and probably about 15 years ago I learned about DBT, dialectical behavioral therapy and it’s basically asked if the skills-based program and I have been using it ever since then in everything that I do involved in therapy in one way or another helps all of them I love that because you know a lot of people get frustrated with counseling traditional counseling because they feel like they just go to the session and spend like half hour just kind of catching up what happened over the last week and then they don’t really get a whole lot of time to talk or learn anything in the in the second half hour and still go for like years and paid a lot of money and what not feel like they’re making a lot of progress it seems like DBT and you know it is all about skills training like you said exactly I like to think of it as you know if we were asked we were taken to a property at empty property and asked to build a house and we didn’t have any tools and skills a direction like how easy would it be to do that probably wouldn’t we wouldn’t be able to do that World a lot of us like we don’t have skills we don’t know tools to be able to deal with so many things in life and now and just so happy to say that DBT has come along and now we have these skills were able to teach these things to help so many people I love it so one thing I mentioned to people who were like asking about what is DBT, cognitive-behavioral therapy was CBT that was pretty common for many years right as I kind of the main idea dality through for like 20 years almost and that’s where some of these like positive reinforcement or two positive affirmations came into play where people look themselves in the mirror and they say I am a powerful person and I am strong and but we found that that actually was kind of causing some problems where people who aren’t actually powerful or strong it almost felt like that they were lying to themselves and we’re triggering a part in their brain the amygdala that little small part in our mid brain that recognizes threat it would it would I recognize that as a as you’re lying to yourself as an internal threat it’s not able to distinguish internal threat from external threat, and it became your kind of problematic and so it seems like DBT is his kind of taking it to the next level is that what you think happened so many times using just to CBT therapeutic technique and now what we do is we can to say okay is it possible that you may be able to do these things that you may be good enough that you may be a good person and that doesn’t set in the fight flight or freeze mode because it’s a possibility rather than I am this making it a definite statement so and yeah we use the the techniques of like loving kindness phrases where we use they almost sound like wedding toasts you know it’s like may I be strong may I be safe may I be happy and white a dumbass like you’re granting yourself the permission to feel that way and then it promotes your willingness and ability to feel exactly so I’m I love it I think I said there’s a lot of powerful principles and there’s a lot I’ve been loving kindness phrases it just kind of one that we teach in DBT what are some other powerful principles in DBT I I really like to give the listeners out there real takeaways from the show and listen to some of these tools what other tool didn’t even feed you have you found to be very powerful it helps us learn how to have connections and just had to have meaningful relationship if for example like this conflict resolution skill ways to communicate effectively and just talk to each other in in-kind ways and there so many others I mean ways to regulate our emotions you talk about if our brains like the amygdala gets get triggered triggered how are emotions can just go while we go into the spider read response and he teaches us how to manage that like quickly as possible and so that we were able to think more rationally, rather than having some cute reaction yeah LOL that I love that to the whole objective of DVT is to stay in that logical for brain thought process during highly emotional scenarios are really powerful principles not just for kids like especially people working in stressful environments I mean I don’t know is anybody not working in a stressful environment I need my car First Responders policemen firemen you know secretaries like having to deal with me or being like that find person that deals with highly emotional clients or people these are really really powerful principles to learn your background though because you’re just coming on with life on Sinners is the new Clinical Director there in West Jordan and a residential program I’m not sure everybody out there knows what the difference is what is a residential program versus what you’re doing with life on centers now the residential program the kids they’re actually live there 24 hours a day and they are getting tons of therapy doing school but they are there 24 hours a day the level where like parents have really lost the ability to have positive influence and they’re like we got it we got to change things up and need to get out of here to be able to change environment and progress is that they really need that level of care and that’s that’s an amazing work that you do it I can imagine. But very rewarding I imagined to and in so doing now here are young adults to come here they participate in about nine to 10 hours of therapy a week and parents are also involved but the idea is that they’re learning tools so that they do you know end up in a residential treatment center so that that will happen and sometimes people that are discharged from residential treatment will go into an intensive outpatient program as well so it’s a kind of see it as there’s like four levels of care and I don’t know maybe there’s additional ones that when I say for I think about you know your ring once people realize there’s an issue with their kids they when they need some mental health counseling Bill second light level one which is like traditional outpatient know once a week for about an hour and I’m trying to make some progress that way it’s kind of a very low level of care and then it seems like intensive outpatient it’s kind of like level to where they’re coming like you said nine to 10 hours a week do you like a lot but it is kind of like school you know it’s almost like they’re going three times a week to a class to learn these emotional health principles there’s another level in there called day treatment where they spin like 8 or 9 hours a day at the facility but go home to sleep in their own bed at night animals level 4 which is like residential like what you said they were there 24 hours a day is that going to help me understand so it’s kind of how do parents know like what level of care they should seek for their loved ones you know Hands-On the severity of behaviors that are going on with their kids I mean if your child isn’t cannot be safe on their own example if they are self-harming like cutting themselves consistently if they have Suicidal Thoughts consistently then they may be it may be necessary for them to go into Residential Treatment but it starts with individual therapy can help figure out what K where is my kid need to be what level of treatment so it it gradually can move on. But the idea is that the kids will get treatment before they end up in two level four level chair parents don’t really have a good solid bead on where their kids are at mentally and so we always say the very best thing is just to come get an assessment you know we at life wants centers we conducted an assessment that takes about 2 hours but it goes through all the different possibilities difficulties they could be dealing with and based off that assessment we can help put them in the right direction you know whether Crystal outpatient you will be sufficient or whether you know intensive outpatient program that we run with help or maybe like you said especially when it comes to Suicide ideation better than they are safe to be at home or not then your residential might make a lot of sense so I got to take a break here but I know I will come right back in just a few minutes but we just wanted to first of all I hope everybody know that there is help out there for mental health challenges your your face week at life on a chance we work with Youth and Young adults ages 11 to 26 years old primarily struggling with anxiety depression isolation social struggles School struggle you know those kind of things but you know when you’re looking for help it’s really important that you consider what level of care would be best and for a lot of people out there who have tried counseling and I didn’t really get anywhere the Intensive outpatient program really works wonders because that’s where we learn these skills in a group counseling form where are the kids, they see that they’re not alone in their struggles are able to connect with people in the group and learning skills together Guided by the therapist so if you really if you’re concerned about yourself or a loved one don’t hesitate give us a call we do a free 15-minute phone consultation where we can strategize with you what would be the best course of action to help your loved one and number is 833-803-3383 and if we’re coming right back with Leslie VandeMerwe Clinical Director of Life on spinners in West Jordan will be back in just a minute
Welcome back to the mental health moment I’m your host Joe Newman from Life launch centers talking today about DBT and mindfulness a couple of very powerful parts of the resilience curriculum we teach Life Launch Center and help us better understand that I’ve got with me on the show today Leslie VandeMerwe licensed clinical mental health counselor and she’s also The Clinical Director of Life Launch Centers in West Jordan so Leslie once again thank you so much for joining us today so you know last time we talked a lot about DBT in a couple of principles are there’s there’s a lot more there that we didn’t even talk about but we wanted to just kind of give the listeners out there a couple of tools that they can and maybe explore a little bit and and gave some awareness about but this half I’d really like to talk about mindfulness this is a kind of becoming a really popular buzzword people talk about mindfulness but I’m not sure I understood what mindfulness really was before I learned it so help us out last week what is mindfulness in and how does it help with mental health mindfulness is basically intentionally living with awareness in the here and now or in the present and doing so without judgment without being judgmental of our of ourselves with whatever however Works billing or with whatever is going on and it just helps us really fill a net with ourselves and our feelings so that were able to manage them more effectively really good definition of some things that come to mind do you know there’s been some celebrities and some athletes who particularly like LeBron James has been big advocates for mindfulness you see him on the sidelines like while he’s preparing to go in that he’ll be doing some light meditation and talked about how becoming connected with his senses and like you said being able to observe what’s going on in his body kind of from a non-judgmental standpoint helps him perform better under pressure and so there’s a couple of principal there that I think a really important it’s not meditation a lot of people when they hear mindfulness they think meditation where you’re like sitting cross-legged with your fingers and circled and humming which kind of feels weird the people they’re like yeah it’s kind of like weirdos to but but I really appreciated that mindfulness is more of like this line Felipe attention to your body through your senses so I like pay attention to three things that you can hear right now your just observe it or look at look around the room and look for five things that you haven’t seen before or you know pay attention to something you can smell or something you can taste right now and research shows that buy by paying attention to those senses that your body has a greater ability to to focus and to maintain attention what powerful principles you know I can what I think about kids today and what they really need and seems like those are a couple of things that parents really want for their kids right now white graphic tell me what do you what do you think you know why are we having to learn mindfulness all the sudden and culture today seems like we haven’t had to teach kids how to you know get in touch with their senses any ideas of why this is coming up now I think so many people what happened to them in the past there’s more awareness kids and parents of baby if there’s a trauma happening too fast or things that have gone wrong and so forth and they’re worried about what’s going to happen the next day or the next year worried about school worried about their friends and so the focusing on the future rather than just a moment and what is going on that is interesting makes a different mindsets today seems like the days of Carefree childhood are waxing a thinner you know it’s like you see how many young toddlers there seems to be a fairly good you know amount of Carefree days but it doesn’t take too long 8 9 10 years old kids start with this anxiety stuff and yeah it’s it’s just getting worse as they go through their teenage years and they’re young adult years you know we often talked about how one major difference is how when a kid was bored when you know back in when I was a kid didn’t have much else to do but to the kind of Daydream look around look out the window serve what’s happening around you but today with 97% of teenagers having a cell phone in their hand or accessible never we have a spare you know 5 Seconds what do we do pull out that phone and give our attention to it and I definitely that you know you become extremely unaware of your immediate surroundings and so I’ve I’ve felt like that technology has played a major role in how it is how we need to teach our kids mindfulness today cuz it’s not something they’re getting naturally exactly and what they’re seeing on social media doesn’t help and it creates more anxiety they’re comparing themselves to others and hearing a lot of negative comments about themselves and yeah it’s all about anxiety and depression 14 different mindfulness practices I wanted to share some of those with the audience so that they understand some things that they can start doing right now so like for example there’s a whole list of breathing techniques that you can use while practicing mindfulness and like paced breathing for example where you breathe in for 4 seconds and you breathe out for 6 seconds because your heart rate goes up and if you breathe it out your heart rate goes down so if you’re experiencing anxiety or depression and you’re you’re an anxiety attack of your heart’s racing if you have more time breathing out then your heart rate will decrease because of the overall net time of your decreasing so another really powerful principal week is what we called go with the flow and let they helped me understand how that works with how emotions come and go if we allow them to and going with the flow means that we may not understand emotion or we may have a strong urge to do something and if we notice it and imagine this emotion and let it just kind of go for a while with the flow it will pass with time and it usually doesn’t take much time and so and so people don’t necessarily have to act out on it and and help the urge or behavior I love that because a lot of people feel like if they think some way or they feel some way that they have to be that way but realizing that if you just sit with that emotion for a short time emotions come and go like waves of the ocean that’s why we say go with the flow Just Let It Come and Let It Go so that’s awesome thank you so much for sharing that I’ve got to wrap up here in less they’ve been awesome having on the show and thank you again for all that you’re doing to help the youth today and all that year now that you’re doing you’re very welcome thanks for having me I hope everyone out there got some helpful ideas about DDT and mindfulness and two things we can do right now to improve arm if you or your loved one is just overwhelmed with anxiety depression isolation or any other difficulty motion please give us a call at life launch centers the number 833-803-3883 or happy to do a free 15-minute phone consultation to help you know what would be the to help your loved one is jump on our website LifeLaunchCenters.com is a lot of great resources there and this has been your mental health moment. Join us again next time right here on St George news radio this is Joe Newman signing off from Life Launch Centers until next time keep those kids safe and keep your sanity.
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